What Do You Believe About the End: Pt. 2 The Elephant in the Room for a Pre-trib Rapture

2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (ESV)

1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.

These two verses provide the context for this chapter. The context is related to the coming of the Lord, the gathering of His people together with Him and detailed information about the antichrist.

It is my personal belief that contained in this chapter is the biggest problem for the scriptural basis of a pre-tribulation rapture. There are many more, but verse 3 of this chapter is the most verifiable “one verse” place that concludes the argument for me.

Last week, we studied Daniel 9:24-27. From those verses, we learned that there is a last 7 year period, which will mark the end of this age. Many things will be occurring during this short period of time that will prepare the turning of the page from this age into the Millennial Reign of Christ.

Examples would be:

  1. the signing of the covenant that starts this period (Daniel 9:27),

  2. the successive opening of the seals (Revelation 5-6), (by seal 5 [Revelation 6:9]), the mark will have been instituted,

  3. which means that the man of sin will have placed himself in the temple of God and demanded to be worshipped (Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

  4. . The next event would be seal 6 (Revelation 6:12-8:1), which will cause great phenomena in the natural world. The sun will become black and the moon red and there will be a horrific earthquake.

  5. . It will be between seal 6 and 7 that the rapture will occur in my opinion.

  6. . The opening of seal 7 (Revelation 8:1) signals an angel to blow the first trumpet, which begins the pouring out of God’s wrath. The wrath of God is progressively intensified between the blowing of the trumpets and the pouring out of the vials. This time is culminated with the

  7. Battle of Armageddon (Revelation 19; Isaiah 63:2-6; Revelation 14:18-20), where a heavenly army made up of angels (Matt 25:31; 2 Thessalonians 1:7) and glorified saints (Revelations 19:14, 15) will return with the Lord as He destroys the rebellious nations with the sword that protrudes from His mouth. This will mark the end of the age that we know as the church age, but even more significant, it will mark the end of the way that the world we live on has operated since the waters from the flood abated and God started anew.

In reference to the signing of the covenant, let’s dig a little deeper, since we have covered this in relative detail through Daniel 9:27. (In my opinion), the signing of the covenant will likely occur simultaneously with the opening of the first seal. I do not mean to get too wordy here, but these distinctions matter to me.

The first seal is the rider on the white horse. This rider is the antichrist. I would imagine all evangelical commentators who have any reputation would agree that the first rider on the white horse (Revelation 6:2) is the antichrist and is not to be confused with the rider on the white horse in Revelation 19, which is Jesus, the glorified King!

I have never heard another teacher say it this way, but to me this is how he will be revealed initially- through the signing of the covenant, and in my opinion, many will miss this clue. What I mean is that the signing of this covenant will be deceptive and most will not realize who he is yet; however, whether people realize what is happening or not, this will trigger the seals being opened, and once they are opened, there is no stopping the progression to the end. As the seals are opened, it will become painfully apparent that things have shifted. All nations will feel this impact, and while many Christians will still be deceived, others will begin to realize that catastrophe is at the door.

Pre-tribulation adherents do not concern themselves much with this Biblical information simply because they are told, and choose to believe, that they will not be here during this timeframe. In many cases, these proponents (teachers who believe this) teach the rapture will have either already occurred or that it will occur somewhat simultaneously with the signing of this agreement.

The most common or prevalent end time terminology refers to this last 7 year period as the “Great Tribulation.” In my opinion, it is important at this point to draw a distinction. For me, there is not a problem with referring to this last 7 year period as the proper name The Great Tribulation. However, it is extremely important that we clarify some details: 1) there is a difference between tribulation and wrath. Tribulation can be caused by man. For instance, men can stop the shipping of cargo, such as wheat or other commodities and cause famine. In addition, men can foment (instigate) war. Surely, you get the point.

However, The Wrath of God and the word tribulation used as an adjective are not the same. What I mean is that there will be [g]reat [t]ribulation throughout the entire 7 year period. [Jesus said these words in Matthew 24:21). This is likely where the proper name The Great Tribulation came from, but in this passage, it is in the lower case (little g and little t) meaning that He is simply describing the great turmoil throughout this 7 year period.

However, distinguishing the difference between tribulation (little t) and wrath is of utmost importance because pre-tribulation preachers lump it altogether, but there is a huge difference in technicality when it comes to the timing of the rapture.

The scripture says that we are not appointed to wrath (1Thessalonians 5:9), and the reason why is that Jesus took the wrath we deserved when our sin was placed on Him, and He died in our place. However, Jesus, Himself, told us that we will endure tribulation. It’s important to note that I’m not inferring that He is referring in (John) specifically to the Great Tribulation. Instead, He is saying that believers are not immune to the tribulations of life that befall this fallen earth (John 16:33)

Start teaching from here the above is lagniappe

2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (ESV)

1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.

Verse 2 reveals that the church in Thessalonica were being told and had even possibly received a fraudulent letter with Paul’s name on it saying, “The Day of the Lord has come!”

But our focus is on verse 1. Notice how there is terminology referring to two thoughts: 1) the coming of our Lord and 2) our gathering together with Him. I placed a significant amount of information to help with understanding this thought in the notes above.

The last 7 year period will contain many moving parts that will culminate the end. When we use the terminology, last days, it encompasses what we are feeling now, but even more significantly refers to the last 7 years. In a similar fashion, when there is terminology related to the Day of the Lord, it is specifically related to the beginning of God’s wrath; however, one day to the Lord is like a thousand and a thousand like one day, so the scriptures often refer to the Day of the Lord in more general terminology relating to the last days.

Here, it is clear that the Holy Spirit through Paul is referring to the last days but specifically to the rapture of the church. This is verified by the terminology and our being gathered together to Him.

The word used for this whole phrase is ἐπισυναγωγή episyngoge. As usual, this is a compound word in the Greek and is broken down this way: epi— upon and synagoge- gather

The word synagoge is where the word English word synagogue is derived, which meant a gathering of people that had the same beliefs regarding the Jewish scriptures. The added word epi while most often used as a preposition meaning upon has additional meaning in the Greek language. Prepositions in Greek have additional uses and are often used to reveal deeper meaning. Specifically, the word epi (upon) can mean completeness in the sense of culmination or coming to an end.

So this verse is specifically referring to that part of the end of the age that relates to the final gathering together of those believers who were likeminded through the ages in God’s plan for mankind.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV)

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, [except there come a falling away first], [and that man of sin be revealed], the son of perdition;

That day refers to the rapture of the church. Let no one deceive you he says THAT day will not come except there is a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed. We will separate the thoughts [falling away] and [the man of sin] in a moment, but first, let’s dissect the falling away into two time frames:

The following two translations use two different words for the falling away. One uses rebellion and the other uses apostasy. In a sense, the word apostasy is likely the best choice, and I will explain that in a moment, but the terminology falling away and rebellion are helpful to distinguish the two thoughts that we are currently dealing with.

Examples showing the different word usage

3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, [unless the rebellion comes first], [and the man of lawlessness is revealed], the son of destruction, (2 Thessalonians 2:3 (ESV)

3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come [unless the apostasy comes first], [and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction],

2 (Thessalonians 2:3 (NASB)

1. The first aspect of the rebellious falling away that can also be called apostasy that I want to refer to has to do with a general falling away from the faith that we are warned will happen in the last days. These times will be filled with a love for self more than a love for God (2 Timothy 3:1-4).

These times will be filled with the twisting of truth that will be led by the doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1-2).

The love of self and the love for happiness of self will draw the hearer to find preachers that will make them happy. The truth convicts and conviction doesn’t feel good to a person who refuses to truly repent of their sin, so what they will do in the last days is search for themselves preachers that will tell them pleasant words that they want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

The scripture also warns us that men have always been known to deceitfully handle the word of God, causing confusion in people’s lives and turning their walk with God into the similar motions of a wave on the ocean that is tossed whichever way the wind blows (Ephesians 4:11-16).

These people won’t even know this is happening to them because Satan is deceiving them away from the simplicity of Christ— meaning a message focused on Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1-4).

2. The second falling away brings us to Jesus’ Olivet discourse in Matthew 24

Let’s review Matthew 24:1-14. The main verse that I wanted you to see was:

Matthew 24:10 (ESV)

10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another.

This is the specific falling away, also known as the rebellion or the apostasy that will take place once the Great Tribulation begins with the opening of the first seal.

Back to 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and the fact that the day of the rapture cannot take place unless two things happen:

  1. There is a great falling away

  2. The man of sin is revealed

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (NASB)

3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come [unless the apostasy comes first], [and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction],

I purposefully chose the NASB as the source for this verse because of the word apostasy. The specific Greek word here is apostasia—defection from truth, falling away, to forsake.

The pre-tribulation position is forced to take a position on this scripture that is not consistent with the Bible. Several pre-tribulation authors make the claim this phrase would have been better translated …that day will not come until the taking away and the man of sin is revealed. But the Greek word apostasia means to defect or to fall away not take take away, so they are saying that it’s referring to the Rapture itself. This makes even less sense when we think about it, because then it would be saying, “That day [ie the Rapture] will not take place until two things happen first 1. The taking away [the Rapture] and 2. The man of sin is revealed.

Conclusion

Daniel 12:7-11

In these verses, the angel describes a time on earth when Israel’s power will be shattered and the prophecy of Daniel 9 will come to an end.

During these last days many will heed truth and purify themselves while the wicked will continue in their sin. Only the wise will understand.

Daniel 12:12 (ESV)

12 Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days.

This verse says that the person who makes it to the 1335 days is blessed. 1335-1260=75

I believe that once antichrist breaks covenant and reveals who he really is to the world, there will be a 75 day period before the rapture. This coincides with the words of the Lord:

Matthew 24:22 (ESV)

22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Preserving the Judah Seed

Romans 5:1-5 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Job 23:8-12. 8 Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: 9 On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him: 10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. 11 My foot hath held his steps, his way have I kept, and not declined. 12 Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.

1 Peter 1:3-9

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: 7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Ephesians 2:10

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Too much of us still in us

Luke 10:38-41

38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word. 40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:

Bid- command or tell her

John 21:20-22

Jesus and the Beloved Apostle

20 Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them, the one who also had leaned back against him during the supper and had said, “Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?” 21 When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, “Lord, what about this man?” 22 Jesus said to him, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!”

Matthew 20:21-22. 21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. 22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Genesis 24:3 And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:

Genesis 28:1 And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.

The Holy Spirit used Paul to say, we glory in tribulations because tribulations in the end bring forth the hope of God. Since He has chosen to use us in spite of our short comings and inadequacies. We have to trust His sovereign hand over the steps of our lives and the various changes that take place on the earth. We must believe that the providence of God is at work on the earth. What seems like famine and despair, trial and tribulation to most is really a springboard of opportunity for God to position His people in the right place at the right time for His will to be done.

We could use the character of Ruth and Naomi as an example. Famine ravaged the land. God’s people the characters in the story left the place of waiting and trusting God to move towards a foreign land of foreign God, which is followed by death, heartache, tragedy. In all of that, they return to Bethlehem and the story says that …her hap was to light on a part of the field belonging unto Boaz, who was of the kindred of Elimelech. The word can mean chance or providence. You choose how you want to see it. I know how I see it. I see the providential hand of God moving in all the circumstances both good and bad. He’s orchestrating circumstances and events to bring the world to the place He wants it to be and to position His people in the time and place that He wants them to be so that through them, He will accomplish His will through their lives.

In my mind, the individual lives of believers provide the individual moving parts of a symphony that moves the story of an opera. There are words that describe the harmonious relationship of sounds that move the music. There are words that describe slowing down, speeding up, sadness, happiness, but whatever the movement, they all seem to work in harmony together to move the purpose of the conductor towards an intended end. To move the work from a starting point to an end. All the various pieces of the orchestra are working in unison or harmony to bring the symphony to a successful end of what the composer intended.

One word that I did not find used in the dictionary of musical terms was Cacophony. This words origins was borrowed from the Greek Kakos meaning bad. Specifically there was a Greek word used in the American dictionary that I looked cacophony up in and the word was cacodemon—Bad. There is no place in a symphony for cacophony because the purpose is pleasantry not disappointment.

With that concept in mind, we tackle the thought of God’s plan as a symphony. The composer and conductor has a plan for a beginning and an end and the symphony is intended to be a harmonious work of multiple parts playing in unison.

Within the work there is both trial and tribulation. Within the work, there is tragedy and triumph, but what is not purposefully written within the work is cacophony. Let’s call it in God’s symphony an act of rebellion. It may be rebellion incited by deception. We may not have known that the move we were about to make would be an act that would move one of the pieces of God outside of the will of His symphony, but it does.

It’s not like He can’t replace the position. He can find another cello player or replace someone in the brass section. But He did have a specific plan for that particular French horn player who kept getting the same Charlie horse in his leg over and over and over again and finally through his repeated acts of discord and cacophony found himself no longer in the orchestra and no longer in the movement of the symphony of God. He or she may have thought that they happily joined another symphony but it’s not the symphony of God. It has a different composer and conductor altogether. It’s a plagiarized work that looks close to the original but it’s not the plan that God originated.

So there is a symphony of God and because of the cacophony of sinful rebellion injected into the opera, there are times of trial and tribulation that speed up or slow down the work in order to bring the pieces back into harmony.

The story of Judah is cacophony. God had already told the family through great grandpa Abraham not to marry a Canaanite and then grandpa Isaac told Judah’s daddy the same thing. So Judah’s decision to take Shua the Canaanite to wife was a direct Cacophany to the symphony of God. Let’s just talk Bible terms now. It was rebellion against God’s word. And it’s a big deal because it’s messing up God’s plan.

But you go on Judah, Christian, whatever your name is—Pastor. You do it your way and step outside of God’s will and then we will watch a succession of seed spilling and God’s plan being thrown upon the earth like it’s absolutely meaningless because it’s been placed in the hands of people who right now in their walk think they’re good but are more concerned about their own well being and happiness than they are the plan of God that they treat the seed of God with contempt.

Wow Judah is Judas (Matt 1:2,3). Judah sells Joseph for 20 pieces of silver and Judas sells Jesus for 30 pieces!! Wow, when praise don’t act right it results in prison but when it does it opens prison doors— Paul and Silas.

Another very interesting thing about this Judah story is the location of its placement within God’s overall movement of the story. If it were not for this story’s seemingly cacophonous interruption, there would be nine chapters solely dedicated to the story of Joseph and his seemingly unwarranted trials and tribulations.

Anyway, back to trials and tribulations sometimes trials and tribulations make no sense. There are those times where we know that we made wrong decisions or blatantly sinned and opened doors that caused us to venture down a wrong road but then we see the stories of Joseph and Job and we wonder— why Lord? Why is it that sometimes your people who love you have to face these trials and tribulations in life?

And then we add to the fact the thought of Romans 5 and hupomonae—we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope.

Then Job’s words “when he has tried me I shall come forth as gold” and the Peter’s words: 7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

And now I see Joseph juxtaposed or contrasted with Judah. Judah grabs a Canaanite woman and Joseph releases dreams from God about God’s plans for the future. Judah’s offspring spill their seed on the ground and Judah sells his brother to a band of Ishmaelites. Joseph runs from Potopher’s wife and Judah lies with what he thinks is a prostitute.

And Joseph goes through the trial and remains under in a God honoring way. He doesn’t understand. He just remains faithful to His God. He is propelled through the trial to a position. He is given an anointing by God to interpret dreams. His gift puts him in a position of prominence and his position results in the saving of a multitude. He states to his brothers:

And so that’s the extent of what Joseph was allowed to see regarding his trial. He was allowed to see that God used him to -reserve food in the midst of a famine. He was allowed to see that God saved multiple people from multiple nations. Maybe that was the prophetic meaning of the coat of many colors that he wore as a young boy I don’t know. He was even able to see how the prophetic dream that he was given in a way as a young man made more sense now as his brothers and dad in a sense bowed to him now that he had power to save them. But what he was not able to see was that hidden in the midst of the Israelites that would multiply in the land of Goshen was a prospering seed that had been preserved. A seed that came from the firstborn twin of Tamar and Judah his name was Pharez and Pharez and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ